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poohbearjo43
Hello I am looking for anyone who might have known Roger Allen who played trumpet with the Blue Devils in the 70's probably somwhere between 1972-1979 I would appreciate any help you can give me.
84BDSop
QUOTE(poohbearjo43 @ Nov 29 2005, 01:14 AM)
Hello I am looking for anyone who might have known Roger Allen who played trumpet with the Blue Devils in the 70's probably somwhere between 1972-1979 I would appreciate any help you can give me.

He didn't play trumpet.....he played soprano (yeah....it's picky, bt let's be accurate here).

Aside from that....don't know, as he was before my time. Where's JR or Trooper??
poohbearjo43
Sorry about the faux paux about the trumpet unsure.gif err I mean Soprano thingy but then I am not a member of the band just married to a man named Roger Allen who says that he at one time played with the Blue Devils, I came to this website and found that they sell cd's and dvd's of past competitions and would like to get one for my husband for Christmas but don't know for sure what year he was with the Blue Devils maybe he is just pulling my leg and never was with them I don't know that is why I have posted something here maybe someone will read this and let me know. I haven't asked him too much about it because I wanted it to be a surprise for Christmas. If anyone out there reads this and knows anything it would greatly be appreciated. Thanks, Jo
joe020304
http://www.bluedevils.org/tty/index.php?ye...D=1&page=roster

just click on a year, and see if you can find his name.
bdufls
There is no Roger Allen listed in the roster.

But just in case you better buy up a bunch of CD's and DVD's. wink.gif

Trust me, he'll love 'em! smile.gif
84BDSop
QUOTE(bdufls @ Nov 29 2005, 11:16 AM)
There is no Roger Allen listed in the roster.

But just in case you better buy up a bunch of CD's and DVD's. wink.gif

Trust me, he'll love 'em! smile.gif

Yeah....but sometimes the roster's incorrect. I forgot who it was, but there WAS a guy who marched in 84 who was not listed (he may have been added....I think it was John Smeltzer)

Also, some of the instruments are wrong...the 84 listing shows Stan Cochrell and Steve Strom in the soprano line....but Stan was on either bari or euph and Steve was a French horn....and Jeff Voorhees is listed as a MARCHING tympani!!

Best way to confirm would be either an actual yearbook or someone who DID march the corps remembering him....
cire
as far as the roster im pretty sure that you are only added if you add yourself.. i might be wrong.. cause i know a few people who arent listed.
poohbearjo43
Hey thanks for the suggestion about the roster but he isn't listed anywhere. This is the information I have come up with so far. My husband Roger Allen played for 5 years somewhere between the time of 1972-1980 He graduated from High School in 1977 from Modesto High here in Modesto Ca. He was with a group called Valley Fever (does anyone know anything about this group???) and for 1 year played with the Blue Devils but I don't know what year and I don't know how else to find any information. I would love to buy all of the CD's and DVD's offered but would really like to find one that would have him playing on it, so it would be special. Thanks for all the help so far.
cire
why not just ask him what year he marched blue devils.. most likely that would have been his last (age out) year.. then you can assume that he marched valley fever the 5 years prior to that
UGAtpt
wouldn't he have aged out at 21? weren't the age out rules the same back then? so, whatever year he would have aged out... graduating in 77 he probably aged out in 80, so id guess somewhere close to there
bd5times
IF he marched in Valley Fever, their first year of competition was in 1980. I don't believe anybody went from Blue Devils to Valley Fever, so.....If he marched four years in Valley Fever, that would put him at best in the 1984 Blue Devils (I don't recall the name).

I think you're looking for mid-80's Blue Devils
cire
QUOTE(bd5times @ Nov 30 2005, 08:27 AM)
IF he marched in Valley Fever, their first year of competition was in 1980. I don't believe anybody went from Blue Devils to Valley Fever, so.....If he marched four years in Valley Fever, that would put him at best in the 1984 Blue Devils (I don't recall the name).

I think you're looking for mid-80's Blue Devils

its possible he marched BDB and not BDA!
jonw
QUOTE(bd5times @ Nov 30 2005, 07:27 AM)
IF he marched in Valley Fever, their first year of competition was in 1980. I don't believe anybody went from Blue Devils to Valley Fever, so.....If he marched four years in Valley Fever, that would put him at best in the 1984 Blue Devils (I don't recall the name).

I think you're looking for mid-80's Blue Devils

I doubt it Rob (not mid 80s). She says he graduated high school in '77, and I'm assuming she knows that year is correct, so he would have had to of aged out by '80.

However, Rob is right. Something doesn't add up. If your husband graduated in '77 he could not have possibly marched 4 years with Valley Fever (they didn't exist until later as Rob points out) then one with BD. Perhaps he is just exaggerating his drum corps history. It happens - wink.gif .

If you really want to do this I think you are just going to have to ask him when he marched with the Blue Devils specifically. Tell him you saw someone in the mall (or wherever) with a BD t-shirt on and you asked him when he marched and it made you wonder...

btw - if he didn't actually march with BD he will still LOVE your idea for a gift. Anyone who is willing to fib about marching (not saying that is the case here), is certainly someone who wishes they did and would love some CDs and/or DVDs.

You might check out the "Through the Years" series on this site.

Through the Years - 70s

Through the Years - 80s
joe020304
QUOTE(jonw @ Nov 30 2005, 08:14 AM)
Perhaps he is just exaggerating his drum corps history. It happens - wink.gif

yup, a lot of people do that.
cire
QUOTE(joe020304 @ Nov 30 2005, 12:36 PM)
QUOTE(jonw @ Nov 30 2005, 08:14 AM)
Perhaps he is just exaggerating his drum corps history.  It happens -  wink.gif

yup, a lot of people do that.

yup a lot do.. except japs.. he really did march until he was 23 or 24! laugh.gif
poohbearjo43
hello again I don't really have any more information though I did ask him when Valley Fever started and he said it started in 1978 don't know when their first competition was, maybe he did exaggerate about how many years but we did get an invitation for a reunion for Valley Fever this past summer so I know he was in that corps and I really can't think he would have made up being in the Blue Devils he always talks about traveling to different states and competing but doesn't distinguish which corps he was with at the time, I know I could just ask him but I really wanted it to be a suprise. I just came across a couple of pictures with a banner in the background that says "1980 Drum corps International Championship" also the stands in the background have some unusual letters like JIMATT the A could be an O the people on the field are in the colors Black and red and look like little soldiers and another group is in yellow and black and the yellow looks like rain coats and another group is in red and yellow with flags that have red and yellow stripes and streamers on them with some funny looking hats with I think feathers in them does any of this ring a bell with anyone, my son and I were laughing so hard-trying to explain the details- I could barely type this out!! now whether he was with Valley Fever or Blue Devils I don't know. He did mention going to Ann Arbor Michigan and somewhere in Alabama. I know this isn't very helpful but maybe someone out there knows something. Thanks again to everyone you have been very welcoming to someone new.
jonw
He probably aged out with the Blue Devils in Birmingham Alabama in 1980 as a World Champion no less!
84BDSop
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hello again I don't really have any more information though I did ask him when Valley Fever started and he said it started in 1978 don't know when their first competition was,
According to CorpsReps, it was 1980.

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maybe he did exaggerate about how many years but we did get an invitation for a reunion for Valley Fever this past summer so I know he was in that corps and I really can't think he would have made up being in the Blue Devils he always talks about traveling to different states and competing but doesn't distinguish which corps he was with at the time, I know I could just ask him but I really wanted it to be a suprise.


All right....we need the 1980 alums to step up here.

As far as making things up....you;d be amazed how many times I come across people who say they marched 84 Blue Devils "A" and I know for a fact they did not...one guy even claimed he was in the opening trio in La Fiesta...and I KNOW who those guys were...

Not saying your husband's lying....but just a word to the wise.

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I just came across a couple of pictures with a banner in the background that says "1980 Drum corps International Championship" also the stands in the background have some unusual letters like JIMATT the A could be an O
That would be a reference to Jim Ott, legendary brass arranger for the Stockton Commodores, Blue Devils, and Spirit of Atlanta. Tragically, Jim died on a car wreck while on tour with Spirit in 80...which is where that signage comes in. The high bass trohpy was named in his honor.

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the people on the field are in the colors Black and red and look like little soldiers and another group is in yellow and black and the yellow looks like rain coats and another group is in red and yellow with flags that have red and yellow stripes and streamers on them with some funny looking hats with I think feathers in them does any of this ring a bell with anyone,
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I'll give it a shot... The black & red soldiers was probably the Guardsmen from Schaumburg, IL...in fact, it was the last time they were in finals...if the hats looked like really tall stovepipes with a tiny white plume, it was teh Guardsmen...if the hat was instead a (for lack of a better description) a cowboy-ish one with one side folded up, it was either Northstar (North Shore, MA) or the Santa Clara Vanguard (Santa Clara, CA)...both had uniforms that weresomewhat similar to the uninitiated (80 was the last finalist year for Northstar....Santa Clara's never been out of finals.

Yellow coats ONLY means one corps....the Bridgemen from Bayonne, NJ....the original clown princes of drum corps! When youj look like Huggy Bear, you HAVe to be funny....and they were GOOD at it....fine drum line, too. 80 was their peak year, placing 3rd

Red and Yellow probably refers to the Garfield Cadets....the colors are actually maroon and a light beighe.

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my son and I were laughing so hard-trying to explain the details- I could barely type this out!! now whether he was with Valley Fever or Blue Devils I don't know. He did mention going to Ann Arbor Michigan and somewhere in Alabama. I know this isn't very helpful but maybe someone out there knows something. Thanks again to everyone you have been very welcoming to someone new.


Alabama probably refers to championships, which were held in Birmingham that year.

If you've never seen drum corps....get'cherself a DVD....some really good performances out there....especially in 1980!
cire
even better.. why not buy him tickets to the DCI finals this year!
bdufls
QUOTE(84BDSop @ Nov 30 2005, 07:00 PM)
According to CorpsReps, it was 1980.

(snip)

Hey Sam,

Please email me.

I just tried to send you an email and it bounced.

Thanks,

Todd
alumni@bluedevils.org
poohbearjo43
Thanks again for all of the help, I guess since no one seems to know of him or even ever heard of him maybe he did just make it up. Now this has me wondering what else he's made up, He said he played with something called the McDonald's All American Band in the Macy's day parade and in the Rose parade and worked one summer in Disneyland, oh and he also toured in Europe with somehting called the great suprise, anyway I just wanted to log on once more and say many thanks to all who posted and tried to help me out.
cire
well all those things DO exist...

dont you ever ask to see pictures or any memorabilia from those days?
skluyuk
Hmmmmm.....

Now I am not a charter member of the Valley Fever, but I marched lead soprano (soloist..no less) during the 1982 and '83 seasons with many.

The Valley Fever was started by Gary Runsten in Modesto during 1980....not 1978. I don't ever recall hearing the name Roger Allen, but then again, my memory is not that good.

A few of the "charter" members in the sop line were:
Jim Rohrer
Todd Clark
Julia Bland

All great friends. Jim was my college roommate (aged out in 1982). Todd, Julia, Brent Kline (marched Bari and the DM), Ken McDonald (Bari), Jessica Potts (guard), and I all leaped over to Blue Devils in 1984. I'm almost positive we were the first members of the Valley Fever to ever march with a different corps. Several followed suit in the next years. I think Michelle Knight played sop in 1985.

Methinks that your husband is exaggerating a bit....I don't blame him. This is an awesome acitivity. Make sure to get your kids involved. If you don't have kids make some so that Roger can live out his dreams through them!! ....and buy lots of the BD DVD's for emotional support!!! laugh.gif

Good luck.
poohbearjo43
Thanks again for all the input everybody, I am just kind of stunned and sad about this whole thing. I will still probably order some of the cd's and dvd's but it sure won't be the same. I do have pictures of him playing but it was in high school and I also have 3 or 4 trumpets or sopranos or whatever you call them sitting in our closet so I do know he played at some time in his life. I plan on asking him tonight of course this will totally ruin the surprise but oh well.... Thanks again everyone
84BDSop
QUOTE(poohbearjo43 @ Dec 7 2005, 03:16 PM)
Thanks again for all the input everybody, I am just kind of stunned and sad about this whole thing. I will still probably order some of the cd's and dvd's but it sure won't be the same. I do have pictures of him playing but it was in high school and I also have 3 or 4 trumpets or sopranos or whatever you call them sitting in our closet so I do know he played at some time in his life. I plan on asking him tonight of course this will totally ruin the surprise but oh well.... Thanks again everyone

If those horns only have 2 vertical piston valves....or they have one horizontally mounted one and one rotary one, they're drum corps horns...if they've got 3 valves, they're trumpets. The 3 valve bugle wasn't legalized in drum corps until the 1990 season, but they were still in the key of G. B flat horns like an actual trunpet weren't legalized until the 2000 season.

Hope it all works out.
cire
todd clark was one of my instructors in BDB.. AWESOME guy!
skluyuk
QUOTE(cire @ Dec 7 2005, 05:14 PM)
todd clark was one of my instructors in BDB.. AWESOME guy!

Where'd he go Eric? Any idea?

He and Lynette Logan were married for a while and divorced around 2000 or something like that. 'Netta was yet another Valley Fever alum that went on to Blue Devils in 1985 to march mellophone. Rob probably remembers her.

Todd was an awesome sop player. I think he ended up getting the 1986 ring.
bd5times
Yeap, I remember all those people. Lynette was my seat partner for first tour in 85.
poohbearjo43
Well I got the trumpets out and looked at them there are three total two in one case and one in another. Both of the cases are large black ones with the name Getzen on the outside and one is long in length but short in height has 3 valve things it also says on it Eterna by Getzen severinsen model, the other one is much bigger and has 4 valves on it. In the other case it is the same black case maybe a little smaller same name on it and the thing inside is the same looking as the other bigger one but only has 2 valves. I could take a picture of them but don't know how to post it. They all say Eterna by Getzen on them I am assuming that is the brand. I didn't get a chance to talk with him yet, last night was just super hectic. And by the way he has to know that Gary Runsten, becasue he is in almost every picture that my husband is in one of my Husbands yearbooks from Modesto High
UGAtpt
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one is long in length but short in height has 3 valve things it also says on it Eterna by Getzen severinsen model,
that's a really nice trumpet, they dont even make those any more... if he gets to thinking about selling it...

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the other one is much bigger and has 4 valves on it.


probably a flugelhorn, not a trumpet

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the thing inside is the same looking as the other bigger one but only has 2 valves


that might be the soprano...
cire
did BD ever used getzen horns back in the day?
UGAtpt
it is indeed possible to fit a non getzen horn in a getzen case...
poohbearjo43
Hey everyone, thanks for all the info, finally got it figured out....we just got done watching this years finals (2007) YEAH BLUE DEVILS!! and we were talking about it, he was with the Blue devils in Philiadelphia in 1976, he did not age out as he then went on to the Valley Fever here in Modesto...Thanks again for all your help...
flammaster
QUOTE(skluyuk @ Dec 7 2005, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I am not a charter member of the Valley Fever, but I marched lead soprano (soloist..no less) during the 1982 and '83 seasons with many.



I have a DCI Cassette tape with Valley Fever the Knights and VK and someone else on it!
Trooper
Now I marched '76, and I don't remember that name.

Maybe if I saw a photo.

Roger Allen, soprano, '76. Doesn't ring a bell for me.
70s Devil
QUOTE(Trooper @ Sep 6 2007, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Now I marched '76, and I don't remember that name.

Maybe if I saw a photo.

Roger Allen, soprano, '76. Doesn't ring a bell for me.



Same here Troop. The only Roger I remember who played sop is "Pugsly", and his last name was not Allen.
elayes
Hmm, intriguing mystery...

I dug out my 1976 yearbook and the only Roger listed, in any section, was Roger McCoy (Pugsly?)
Trooper
Yes, Roger McCoy was Pugsley.

Nice seeing you, your dad and sister in Pasadena Lee.
elayes
Hey, Bob, nice to see you too. I wish I'd been able to catch up with more of the alumni from my era!
poohbearjo43
I would love to post a picture but since it is from a long time ago it of course was not taken with a digital camera which means I would have to scan it in so that may take some time, haven't had to use the scanner in a long time, I have lots of current pictures but I don't think he looks the same...if I can get one scanned in can someone tell me how to post it???
Thanks, Joann
poohbearjo43
Don't know if I did this right or not, but figured I would give it a whirl, there should be a picture of Roger, it's an old school picture, I am pretty sure it was from high school but not completely sure...Any help would be great...Does he look familiar to anyone???

Trooper
I don't recognize him. That would span marching years 1974 thru 1977. I don't know his name and the picture does nothing for me.
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